False Prophecies of the Mormon Church

10 August

Spirit of man sexually begotten by Heavenly Father

Latter-day Prophets Speak: Selections from the Sermons and Writings of Church Presidents, Book 5; “There is not a person here today but what is a son or a daughter of that Being. In the spirit world their spirits were first begotten and brought forth, and they lived there with their parents for ages before they came here. This, perhaps, is hard for many to believe, but it is the greatest nonsense in the world not to believe it. If you do not believe it, cease to call Him Father; and when you pray, pray to some other character.” -Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 4:216, February 8, 1857

Spirit of man not created

Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 158; “The spirit of man is not a created being; it existed from eternity, and will exist to eternity. Anything created cannot be eternal; and earth, water, etc., had their existence in an elementary state, from eternity. Our Savior speaks of children and says, Their angels always stand before my Father. The Father called all spirits before Him at the creation of man, and organized them. He (Adam) is the head, and was told to multiply. The keys were first given to him, and by him to others. He will have to give an account of his stewardship, and they to him.”

So, out of the last two prophecies which one is correct?

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4 Responses to “False Prophecies of the Mormon Church”

  1. shematwater August 10, 2011 at 7:36 pm #


  2. shematwater August 10, 2011 at 7:37 pm #

    Oh, and these are not prophecies. Just like to point that out once again. A prophecy foretells the future, these simply speak of eternal truths.

    • lifeafterministry August 10, 2011 at 8:08 pm #

      According to the Holman Bible Dictionary, which by the way the Church approves of, says this about prophecy and prophets:

      PROPHECY, PROPHETS Reception and declaration of a word from the Lord through a direct prompting of the Holy Spirit and the human instrument thereof.
      Old Testament Three key terms are used of the prophet. Ro’eh and hozeh are translated as “seer.” The most important term, nabi, is usually translated “prophet.” It probably meant “one who is called to speak.”

      This is what it says about false prophets:

      The apostles instructed believers to be diligent in faith and understanding of Christian teachings, in order to discern false prophets when they arise (2 Pet. 1:10; 1:19-2:1; 1 John 4:1). The tests of a prophet are: 1) Do their predictions come true (Jer. 28:9)?
      2) Does the prophet have a divine commission (Jer. 29:9)?
      3) Are the prophecies consistent with Scripture (2 Pet. 1:20-21; Rev. 22:18-19)?
      4) Do the people benefit spiritually from the prophet’s ministry (Jer. 23:13, 14, 32; 1 Pet. 4:11)?

      I am not an expert on the Bible, but merely a student and someone who loves the Lord. One thing I have learned is that God’s word is final. There is no changing it or adding to it.

      Tell me Shem, why do you bother with the Bible if you don’t believe the it’s been translated correctly? And more importantly, which parts specifically have been mistranslated and who specifically did this?

      A prophet in the NT times is not always declaring something in the future. You’re the one that has this backwards, not the rest of Christianity. Prophets in the NT era can prophesy of future events BUT they always have to line up with scripture and ONLY agree with what God has already revealed to us from the word of God and His apostles AT THE TIME OF JESUS. Prophets of the NT era declare the word of God not add to it. Prophets were also teachers.

  3. shematwater August 12, 2011 at 5:46 pm #

    All the words of a prophet are not prophecies. So, no, the prophets of the NT were not always foretelling the future, but they weren’t always prophesying either.

    As to your concordance, the church approves of many, that does not mean they are perfect accurate, nor does it mean they contain the gospel. All it means is that they are well written without any agenda behind them, and are based on actually scholarly work.

    Now, prophecy is a term used to describe the foretelling of future events. That is what the common person will associate this term with, which is why continually point out those things you reference that are not foretelling anything.
    But, I will let it drop, as it doesn’t really matter.

    However, this does not prove that both of these references cannot be true.

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