Visiting Teaching Message July 2016

08 July

Visiting Teaching MsgQuestions for Today:

Which is of greater worth; giving birth, or Blood of Christ?

How many babies are equivalent to Jesus’ spilt blood?

Before we begin this month’s Visiting Teaching Message we wanted to address a comment we received from a visitor (presumably LDS from the tone), and let him/her know we’ve been praying for them, and will continue to do so! TheMarch 2016 VT Message must’ve struck a nerve because it was the 3rd time ‘Anonymous’ has written in response to our article.

We’re asking Christians to pray for this person, and if you feel led to respond, that’d be awesome! Thanks and God bless.  Now onward and upward! The name of the Visiting Teaching Message for July 2016 is Our Potential for Parenthood.

Its title speaks to the heart of where the Mormon gospel lies and true to form, Dallin Oaks wasted no time in reminding members of a speech he gave in 1993 about the ‘ultimate purpose’ in their god’s ‘plan of happiness’.

Here’s what Mr. Oaks had to say in this month’s message –

“In light of the ultimate purpose of the great plan of happiness, I believe that the ultimate treasures on earth and in heaven are our children and our posterity.”


Why is mankind the ultimate treasure in heaven?

Why isn’t the Lamb of God who is King of all kings the greatest treasure?

The first thing that came to mind when I read this is Jesus’ warning in the middle of His ‘Sermon on the Mount’. Matthew 6:21 “For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.”

Being a mom, it goes without saying my children and husband hold a significant amount of value for me personally. However, they’ll never be my ultimate treasure, and this is true for every Christian I’ve ever met.

If Jesus isn’t our ultimate treasure then we’re not worshiping the God of the Bible, and have broken God’s first commandment. Exodus 20:3 ‘Thou shalt have no other gods before me’.

Think about a heaven where the greatest treasure is different for every person there. The scene would be similar to a three ring circus!

Mr. Oaks went on to say members shouldn’t forget God’s all important commandment to ‘multiply and replenish the earth’.


Knowing God and discovering who He is should be a lifelong study for every person ever born, so why has the Church turned this around?

The well of knowing how the marriage bed works only runs so deep, whereas, studying God will last several lifetimes! Why is the focus always on giving birth to another sinner? The Church’s focus is always pointed inward, and not upward, the way God intended.

Eternally Pregnant

If Mr. Oaks’ message wasn’t dismal enough at that point, have no fear because it greatly depreciated in value as he continued to speak…

‘Though not all of us become parents in this life…for many, parenthood awaits them in the eternities ahead’.

This doctrine is what finally got me out of the Church. Pregnant with my third kid in four years brought me to my knees. I was tired, sick, and sick of being tired! One day while looking out a window into our backyard, I started begging Jesus to send me to hell if it meant I had to keep having babies forever. Pregnancies weren’t the easiest feat for me. Loved the outcome, but enduring the nine months of prep time was brutal.

For the record, the LDS are taught that pregnancies in heaven are just like they are here on earth so in my head I was thinking I’d be feeling like that all day, every single day throughout eternity. What kind of heaven is that? See Orson Pratt’s The Seer, pp. 37-38.

We’re praying all Mormons, male and female alike, methodically think this through. The following list is the outcome of disregarding what Paul advised us to do in 2 Corinthians 10:5, ‘…hold all thoughts captive to the obedience of Christ…’ Each scenario takes our focus away from the Lord, not to Him!

  • Thinking about Joe Smith’s version of salvation
  • Spending time wondering how many babies is enough for salvation
  • Thinking about a heaven filled with endless pregnancies
  • Believing you can become a god, or goddess someday

The lesson ended with the following statement:

‘Consider This

In what ways is our earthly family like our heavenly family?’

In direct opposition to what Oaks said, the Bible tells us that our Bridegroom is Jesus Christ Himself and the Church (body of Christ) is His beloved bride.  John 3:29-30 has to be one of the most comforting set of verses in all of the Bible.  Read here what the Bible has to say;

“He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom’s voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled.  30 He must increase, but I must decrease.”

My response above was taken from an article Ed Decker and I wrote years ago called ‘Making Mormon Spirit Babies’. While talking on the phone one day we were contemplating how many millions of years it’d take for an exalted man god to populate his own heaven before he sends spirit children down to a new earth. You can read the entire article here. The Making of Mormon Spirit Babies

It seems the more we go along in time, the less this church has to offer. Once again the focus is on sex instead of God, and once again it didn’t provide any hope for those who don’t have an ‘ideal’ Mormon family, even if they are temple worthy Mormons.

Final thoughts –

How many kids will appease the Mormon god before he grants a person salvation? And more importantly, how many drops of Jesus’ blood is required for the Mormons to accept His sacrifice over their own works which God sees as filthy rags? Isaiah 64:6

Pray that Jesus will open the hearts and minds of those caught in these horrific lies!

With Love in Christ;


1 Cor. 1:18

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