Mormon Dilemma 68

24 September

Organize vs. Create

Why did Mosiah 5:15 say that Christ is “Lord God Omnipotent” who created the earth?  Joseph Smith said that God didn’t create the earth; he just organized it.

Mosiah 5:15;Therefore, I would that ye should be steadfast and immovable, always abounding in good works, that Christ, the Lord God Omnipotent, may seal you his, that you may be brought to heaven, that ye may have everlasting salvation and eternal life, through the wisdom, and power, and justice, and mercy of him who created all things, in heaven and in earth, who is God above all. Amen.

Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 350;You ask the learned doctors why they say the world was made out of nothing; and they will answer, “Doesn’t the Bible say He created the world?” And they infer, from the word create, that it must have been made out of nothing. Now, the word create came from the word baurau which does not mean to create out of nothing; it means to organize; the same as a man would organize materials and build a ship. fn Hence, we infer that God had materials to organize the world out of chaos—chaotic matter, which is element, and in which dwells all the glory. Element had an existence from the time he had. The pure principles of element are principles which can never be destroyed; they may be organized and re-organized, but not destroyed. They had no beginning, and can have no end.; Under the direction of Heavenly Father, Jesus Christ created the heavens and the earth (see Mosiah 3:8; Moses 2:1). From scripture revealed through the Prophet Joseph Smith, we know that in the work of the Creation, the Lord organized elements that had already existed (see Abraham 3:24). He did not create the world “out of nothing,” as some people believe.


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4 Responses to “Mormon Dilemma 68”

  1. shematwater September 28, 2011 at 8:29 pm #

    1. almighty or infinite in power, as God.
    2. having very great or unlimited authority or power.

    God is omnipotent, meaning he has great power. So much power, in fact, that no one can have more or greater power, for he has all power that any being could have.
    However, there are some power that no being has, nor can, and one of those powers is the creation or destruction of the pure principles of element.

    Thus, Mosiah was perfectly accurate in describing God as Omnipotent, and this is not a contradiction of the doctrine of creation through organization.

  2. CamdenC October 2, 2011 at 12:30 am #

    …and don’t forget, He had help “organizing” it all.

    (Referring to the Creation) “Michael or Adam was one of these. Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Peter, James, and John, Joseph Smith, and many other “noble and great” ones played a part in the creative enterprise”.
    (Doctrines of Salvation, Brigham Young – Volume I, Pages 74-75)

    “In his creation of this earth he was assisted by Michael and other noble and great spirits”. (Abraham 3:22-24, Pearl of Great Price, as quoted from Mormon Doctrine – Page 170)

  3. shematwater October 2, 2011 at 2:37 am #

    That is true. Many of the noble and great spirits had a part in the creation of the world, as testified to by Abraham (in the book by that name). However, that does not mean he couldn’t have done it himself, only that he gave the assignment to others.
    If you read the account in the Book of Abraham you will see that, while all these people did assist, the plan was entirely God’s and the work was overseen by him.

    However, it still does not contradict anything that Mosiah said.

  4. shematwater October 2, 2011 at 2:37 am #

    Glad your back.

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