Mormon Dilemma 100

17 November

Posthumous Baptisms for Murderers

Peggy Fletcher Stack, Salt Lake Tribune, June 3, 2009; “Prominent fundamentalist Mormons, most of whom were excommunicated by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints for practicing polygamy while they were alive, have been posthumously re-baptized in LDS temples, a Salt Lake City researcher says.

Helen Radkey said in a new report that she obtained church records on 20 fundamentalists — from murderer Ervil LeBaron to Joseph Musser to Rulon Jeffs — showing that they’ve been baptized and have had their plural marriages “sealed” for time and eternity by proxy LDS members, one as recently as this year.

Perhaps the most puzzling ordinances, Radkey said, are those that “seal” women to men whom they had divorced, mostly over the polygamy issue…

Romans 1:28; And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient.

Interesting…according to D&C 42:79 murderers can never have forgiveness. 

Also interesting is the Mormon response to my questioning baptisms for the dead.  Every time (yes, every time) I question this practice the Mormon will tell me that it’s up to the person already dead to accept or reject the ordinance done for them. 

My concern is why are you doing this?  The person is dead.  According to the Book of Mormon those who die in their sins are dead and it’s too late for them.  Jesus told the Pharisees in Luke 16:19-31 that it’s too late to help those who’ve already died. 

Why not take the extra time you’d have by not going into the temple and study the Bible to see what God has to say about these things? 

And if a woman LEFT HER HUSBAND for polygamy while she was alive what makes you think she’d change her mind in heaven?  Isn’t heaven supposed to be the place with no more tears?  Why would she want to be in a polygamous marriage in heaven?

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One Response to “Mormon Dilemma 100”

  1. shematwater November 17, 2011 at 6:47 pm #

    I don’t think people really understand the reasons why members are allowed to do the works for these people.

    First of all, it is true that the dead person has to accept the ordinance. What most people don’t understand is that it also has to be accepted and ratified by the Holy Ghost.

    Now, we do work for those who never had the chance in life. If these people accept the gospel they will have the full reward of the Celestial Kingdom.

    We also do work for those who had the chance in this life and rejected it, but accepted it in the next. These cannot enter the Celestial Kingdom, but can gain entrance to the Terrestrial through this ordinance.
    I and my wife are going to do the work for her Grandmother, who rejected the Gospel in life, but who we hope has later received it and thus can enter the Terrestrial Kingdom.

    Besides this we allow people to do the work of their relatives, regardless of what their chances might be in the next life, as a mercy to the living. It is a comfort to many to think that the are helping those whom they loved in life, and as it doesn’t hurt anything to let them do it why cause undo pain to them.

    Speaking of murderers, while it is true that no murderer can gain forgiveness and thus cannot attain a kingdom higher than the Telestial, it is not for us to judge who is a murderer and who is not. It is easy to label people and say “the court convicted them and so they are murderers” but this fails to consider the psychology and other circumstances to which we are blind.
    A man may have committed a murder, but with a firm belief that in killing the person he was justified, or that so doing was a mercy and not a murder. It is for God to judge who is truly a murderer and who, due to circumstances, is not. As such, baptism for those convicted of murder are permitted, and the final judgment is left to God, as he is a perfect judge.

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