Exit Story of Lee Baker

09 April

 

Lee & KathyAs a former Mormon Bishop and member of the Church for over 32 years, I have come to know the Lord Jesus Christ. He had placed before my wife and I five years of spiritual and emotional trials, so that we may better know His grace.

The most enlightening and rewarding action a member of the Mormon Faith can do is precisely what they have been told to do: “Study the Restored Gospel of Jesus Christ and the teachings of the Prophets of the Restoration”. From my personal family experience, one of the most dangerous elements of coming to know that the LDS Church is false, and certainly the most treacherous long-term effect of this knowledge, is the thought that, if I was wrong about the LDS Faith, is it possible that I have also been deceived by Christianity itself?. I know the discouraging and depressing fear well from considering that as I had been so thoroughly deceived, maybe I encouraged the deception by my own deep desire for it to be true.

When one leaves the LDS Church, based on a confident witness that the very Doctrine of that Church is not in harmony with the teachings of Jesus Christ, that realization and the action that one takes on behalf of that commitment is only the first step to a closer more personal (and certainly a more correct) relationship with Jesus Christ. Exposing the malice in Mormonism is not the verification that Christianity itself is wrong, only that the Mormon’s distorted version of Christianity is wrong. In fact, it is the exceptionally tender and legitimate teachings of Christ Himself that will expose the enormous errors. These very teachings, chief among them; His Atonement for us, not Brigham Young’s teaching of Blood Atonement, His Grace , and not just the good works of the Mormon Pioneers, that stand as the example of His divine Mission on our behalf. The fact remains that if we, as former Mormons, were blinded for a time and yet remained believers in Him, then we have lost nothing, for He never left us and we never left Him. His guidance for us was only momentarily distorted by the teachings of Mormonism.

I have spent many years in various Leadership positions of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, documenting, verifying and studying, specifically, the original teachings of the Church. I have found many of the most fundamental of these teachings to be completely out of harmony with the Lord’s teachings in the Bible.

To my former Mormon Brothers and Sisters, my testimony is this: that Jesus is the Christ and that we need not worship Him from behind the dark shadows of men who would have us believe that He is individually the author of Polygamy, Polyandry, Blood Atonement, Lying for the Lord, or a myriad of other personally motivated corruptions. He wants a direct and very personal relationship with each of us, as He has ransomed our sins. Not through a maze of changing doctrines or through the endless layers of administrative officers and clerks or executive church officials, committees, counsels or presidencies. He wants you to truly know Him. Know that a sweet and spiritually fulfilling relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ awaits you as you discard the teachings unique to Mormonism. Read and study all the Mormon Doctrine and Teachings you can, and then ask your Bishop if you get confused. By this you will come to know the Lord.

I have documented my forced excommunication from the Mormon Faith by asking questions and searching for the truth in: Mormonism – A Life Under False Pretenses – The True Story of a Mormon Bishop’s Journey of Discovery.

Lee & Kathy BakerIn my book, I discuss the fundamental difference that sets the Mormon Church apart from all truly Christian churches—the sinister and self-serving distortion of the very personality and character of the Lord Jesus Christ. For Mormonism to be true, Christ Himself must be corrupted into one who authorized horrible behavior and thus rendered the past Mormon Prophets completely blameless concerning the motivations of their unspeakable actions.

Defense of these disgusting misrepresentations of the very nature and character of the Lord continues today within the walls of Mormon chapels and Mormon temples throughout the world. My book examines real-world examples of how these beliefs are covered up so that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is able to hide better among true believers in the compassionate Savior of all mankind, Christ Jesus. In Mormonism He and His holy name have been disgracefully used so that self-centered men could gain some measure of power, prestige, and perversion.

This book recounts the true-life experiences of my life as a Mormon Bishop, who for over thirty years was a High Priest, Elders Quorum President, and a member of three High Councils for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the Mormons. I have participated in hundreds of Mormon Temple Endowments and witnessed firsthand the practice of ceremonial rituals in which the taking of human life was mimicked, all in the name of Jesus Christ.

If you would like a copy of my book, Mormonism – A Life Under False Pretenses – The True Story of a Mormon Bishop’s Journey of Discovery, it is available at amazon.com and at fatherspress.com.

Most Sincerely and in Christ’s Holy Name, Lee B. Baker

 

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23 Responses to “Exit Story of Lee Baker”

  1. R Rubins August 11, 2013 at 12:01 am #

    I would be interested to know why you decided to leave the frying pan (Mormonism) and enter the fire (Christianity) without considering getting out of the kitchen.

    • Lee Baker August 11, 2013 at 2:19 am #

      Dear R. Rubins,

      Actually, as the frog in hot water, slowly coming to a boil… I thought I was already in the fire of Christianity when my delayed education caught-up with me and we realized that Mormonism was not Christianity. So, simple answer is that I had from an early age trusted the Bible and Christ, but lost my way falling for the “Restoration” story when nothing needed to be restored at all… only re-read and re-applied to a lost life. It was the identification and application of non-Christian teaching that brought me to my feet. So… I understand your question but I do not feel that I ever left Christ nor did He leave me… only that I came to know the true non-Christian doctrine of Mormonism. Thanks for asking, Lee

    • Jim November 4, 2013 at 5:44 pm #

      Mr baker, would love to talk sometime when your not busy, I am a current active LDS member with doubts and questions and need someone to talk with that will answer questions. Thanks for your time, don’t want to leave personal info as you could understand, so plz tell me how I can reach you through phone or email if possible, thx again…from a brother in Christ

  2. Jim November 4, 2013 at 5:46 pm #

    mr baker, would love to talk sometime and get real answers to questions

    • Lee Baker November 4, 2013 at 6:32 pm #

      Jim,

      Email me at leebbaker@hotmail.com and I will pass my phone and other contact information.

      Your Brother in Christ, Lee

  3. Jessica January 18, 2014 at 2:02 am #

    Throughout my life I have known a handful of Mormons, but have never known much about the religion. I have always had such great respect for who they are “as people”. Always knowing them to be genuinely good hearted , moral, hard working, conservatives with close and loving families. Seems like the perfect life. Oddly, I never considered turning Mormon because I always felt I wasn’t a good enough “person”. Until 3 weeks ago I could not even tell you who Joseph Smith was or anything about Mormonism. After many hours of studying it, reading The Triple and viewing all the history I could find…….Honestly, it broke my heart and I am not even Mormon. I am so proud of you and your wife for having the strength to walk away and follow what you knew was right in your hearts. I don’t think most people have that kind of courage for fear of standing alone. Thank you so much for sharing your stories and experiences with us. I have not been a member of a church for more than 23 years, but think that genuine people like yourself could teach us a great deal. You have inspired me, thank you. Jessica

  4. Lee B Baker January 18, 2014 at 4:24 pm #

    Dear Jessica,

    Thank you for your kind words. The compassion and understanding of others like you, has been a great strength to us. Kathy and I, have each other and a strong relationship with the Lord in large part, because of the many Christians who reflected the Light and Love of the True Gospel of Jesus Christ.

    What cannot be seen by the public from outside of the Mormon Community (who, for the most part as you have correctly stated) are very kindhearted, caring and authentic, is the spiteful character of the Leadership of that Church in private. The enormous gulf you have witnessed, which we have crossed over, is the astonishing difference between the “Functional Mormon Life” and the “Factual Mormon Doctrine”.

    For the General Membership of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, when the two collide and are then forced to be either accepted or overlooked, Praise be to God for those Christians who are there to catch us, teach us and love us. It is much more an expression of His Plan and Your Faithfulness… than a demonstration of our character.

    Thank you… for being you.

    Lee and Kathy Baker – Former Mormon Bishop and member of the LDS Church for 32 years.

  5. chilton miller February 10, 2014 at 3:17 am #

    Do you still believe that God, Christ and the Holy Ghost are three seperate beings?
    How do you belive polygamy was justified in old testament times?
    Why do you still belive in the Bible when its own orgins are just as shakey with real historic facts as the book of mormon?

    I am a member, i obviosly have doubts or would not be looking at this website. But i would like to know what you think about these questions. thank you

  6. Lee B Baker February 11, 2014 at 3:10 am #

    Dear Chilton,

    Thank you for your comments. First, Kathy and I do not believe that God, Christ and the Holy Spirit are seperate beings, we have believe in the Trinity as detailed on this site and on others like gotquestions.org. After Mormonism, we read and reread the Word of God about polygamy and found that it was never, not once Commanded by God as the Mormons believe and teach.

    The Bible has a documented history of its accuracy within thousands of manuscripts, when the Book of Mormon does not have even one… and as most who have been Mormon, I have several copies of the versions of the Book of Mormon from 1830 to the present day and there are many changes within those versions that alter Doctrine… no version or translation of the Bible has ever changed Doctrine. Within both the Book of Mormon and the Doctrine and Covanants the Mormon Church are major changes in Doctrine, there is no comparison to the linguistic versions of the Bible. See D&C 132 (printed in 1876) and D&C 101:4 (printed in 1835) for only one example (same statement in History of the Church, Vol. 6, page 411 bottom of the page), for within these two Scriptures in your Ward Libriary today… one states that the Church did NOT practice polygamy and the other Scripture states that they DO. Let me know if you would like a full listing of all the changes to Doctrine. Thank you again for your time. Lee

  7. Jackie April 16, 2014 at 4:23 pm #

    Mr. Baker

    I was curious as to how one would begin the process of leaving the church? I heard on one of your talks how your leaving wasn’t so simple. Of coarse you having been a bishop, I can’t even begin to imagine. I’m a member, and until now I haven’t found the way out. Because of my fear of negative reaction. I stay because the few people I’ve met in my new ward have been great to my family. We’re new to our town. And it is a small town. But I never felt the doctrine was true, or that Joseph Smith was whom the missionaries depicted. But I guess the church came in my life when I needed something to remind me who Christ is. I’m grateful, but feel obligated to the church. That feels wrong. Can one simply quietly walk away? Thanks for listening?!

    • Lee Baker November 6, 2014 at 3:17 pm #

      Dear Jackie,

      Wow, you have brought back so many similar feelings that Kathy and I have had only 6 years ago. You can and should quietly walk away… for if you do not, you will be in direct contrast to what you have come to know through the Spirit of Truth and your relationship with Christ is much more valuable than your embarrassment or if you are to be ostracized as so many of have been, but even in that your actions and your feelings are Biblical as we take upon us the True name of Christ. Stay strong and follow the Lord of a Man. Write back if you ever need more support and you need to locate a non-Denomination Church which teaches only from the Bible, the good followers will help so much with your transition and re-birth into Christ.

  8. Clay May 20, 2014 at 5:25 am #

    Lee, I am some who has a heart for witnessing to mormons seeing as i have a ton of friends who are in mormonism and it just breaks my heart at how much they are being deceived. Would it be possible for you to send me the 10 page packet PDF file that you constructed based on the Section 132 of the D&C about the administration of Polygamy? you gave it out at the concerned Christians gathering in Phoenix AZ and unfortunately i was unable to attend and obtain one! If you send me one that would be amazing!! thank you for all you do, continue to bring the truth to where it needs to be brought!

    -Clay

    • Lee Baker November 6, 2014 at 3:20 pm #

      Clay, Thank You so very much for your support and your heart for the Mormons. Please take a look at the collection of documents and slides at leebaker.4mormon.org or send me your email and I will send you the best collection of links and documents. My email is leebbaker@hotmail.com Blessings for your Faith in Christ. Lee

  9. Nephi Adam May 30, 2014 at 10:09 pm #

    When I read the stories of people like Lee Baker and his wife, I mourn and am astounded that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints doesn’t teach its members much of anything. So, along comes a knowledgable Christian or even “ex-Mormon” and they can destroy “the testimony” of your typical garden-variety Latter-Day Saint in about 10 minutes

    Brother Baker, you forget that the men that came up with these “doctrines” that you now detest and which the Church has completely disowned in its drive to now be Politically Correct were given to very, very intelligent men. Orson Pratt in his time has the Bible memorized in FOUR Languages–Hebrew, Greek, German, and English. He was the smartest man in the world in his day. James E. Talmadge was the smartest man in the world in his day or so said Albert Einstein. You don’t think we KNOW the objections that you have raised to Mormon Doctrine? You don’t think we have studied these things out? I just laugh when I hear your rendition of Mormon Scripture , leaving “stuff” out to “make your point”. Oh, I’d love to debate you and we’d tell the WHOLE story and then even you would know that Mormonism is the GREATEST Revelation or Light ever given to the World by the LORD. But you settle back to simply embrace the daughter of an Apostate Church, even the Catholic Church and think you are “following Christ” when Christ was and is a GENIUS and He has revealed some of that genius to us through the Prophet Joseph Smith, if you can see it. But you cannot see it. The Apostate Mormon Church never taught you anything much about that genius. So, you wander down the Hall, leaving one room in the SAME house, to open another door and enter another room in that SAME house. It matters now if you are in the Mormon Church or in the Christian Church. Each profess Christ, but each professes an apostate version of the Gospel He, the Christ has taught through the Ages, the most recent attempt in our own time. I feel for ya. But I think you are in the RIGHT place and delivering the RIGHT message commensurate with the light and knowledge you are willing to embrace. It matters not if you recruit 100 or 1,000 Mormons. Perhaps, you can wake up a few sleepy Mormons to actually embrace the Savior and do something righteous.
    Nephi

    • Lee Baker November 6, 2014 at 3:24 pm #

      My Brother Nephi,

      My wife and I now attend and study with a non-denominational Church that teaches from only the Bible. I would love to speak with you and have you represent the Mormon view at the several Conferences that we give throughout the year. Please let me know where you live and I can organize a debate just between the two of us or with your Stake President or Mission President if you with, they will not accept the offer, but I will be there if you agree. My email is leebbaker@hotmail.com

  10. Bruce Clark August 6, 2014 at 6:01 pm #

    Nephi,
    If you really want to debate Mr. Baker then email him and ask him for that very thing. I don’t know him and can’t speak for him to whether he will accept or not. You should also request a debate with Ravi Zacharias and/or Dr. James White.

    • LifeAfter August 6, 2014 at 6:14 pm #

      Amen Bruce, amen!
      Thanks for commenting!

    • Lee Baker November 6, 2014 at 3:26 pm #

      Dear Bruce, Thank you for your comments, I have made the offer to Nephi.

      Blessings, Lee

  11. Joe September 17, 2014 at 10:10 am #

    Its puzzling to me, how a former high priest and Bishop never had a testimony of the restored gospel. I recently became an active member again who for 30 years thought I knew it all and did it my way. One problem though…..When I was 19 I read the Book of Mormon and took Moroni Chapter 10 vs 3-5 to heart. I received an answer from the lord, as he promises. I could never deny the truth. Lee, you can deny the church but you cannot deny the testimony you once had. You can pretend it doesn’t exist and tuck it away somewhere, like I once did……but it will never go away.

    • Lee Baker November 6, 2014 at 3:38 pm #

      Dear Joe,

      Good point and I fully agree with you… I did have a rock solid testimony of the Book of Mormon and of Joseph Smith. As you or anyone… I could only have a testimony, feeling, commitment and dedication to what I knew. As a Catholic I did not know of the Restored Gospel of Jesus Christ, I came to know about it, study it and I fell in love with the new knowledge. How else can it be, you and I can not have an opinion or feeling about something we have no knowledge of… right? We certainly do not know…. what we do not know. I did not know about the First Vision when I was a Catholic… and I did not know about the Churches teachings of how Joseph took the wives of other men and then did not even tell Emma, I did not know that the Church taught that they did not practice Polygamy in the D&C 101:4 from 1835 to 1876… that might be called a lie…. I did not know that as a Bishop did you? Take a look at the several articles on lds.org about these subjects and tell me how you can feel about something you did not know about… when I increased my knowledge… I changed my mind and followed the Lord not Joseph. Give it a try… review this and tell me how good you feel about the honesty of Joseph? https://www.lds.org/topics/plural-marriage-in-kirtland-and-nauvoo?lang=eng

  12. Lynn V. November 6, 2014 at 1:34 am #

    Hi Lee Baker!
    Wow! It is so good to finally hear someone take the words out of my mouth. I watched your videos on youTube, and almost cried when I heard your exit story because it is so similar to mine. To make a long story short, I was born and raised all my life as a devout Mormon and NEVER ever pictured myself leaving the “true” church. When my husband, a Christian, and I got married I thought since my religion was true, it would be a piece of cake for me to get him into my religion. Let me tell you, our first couple years of marriage was hell because we always fought about our different faiths and even got to the point to where we almost divorced. After a lot of praying, reading, studying, and fasting I started to find things in the LDS doctrine that I had never even heard before, doctrines that proved that Joseph Smith could not be a TRUE prophet of God, and it just broke my heart. I started realizing that my church was not true after all and I felt betrayed. When I brought it up to family and other members of the church, they always brushed me off or told me that I was losing faith. I decided to leave and after years of Bible study I got baptized into a Christian church and it has ruined my relationships with my family and even my best friends. It feels so good to know that I am not alone. Is there anyway I can email you? Thank you so much for your ministry. God bless!

  13. Lee Baker November 6, 2014 at 3:41 pm #

    Dear Lynn,

    Yes, Kathy and I travel all over speaking to Christians who work with the Mormon Communities, our email is: leebbaker@hotmail.com and you are not alone that is for SURE… about 1,000 leave each month and if you need more support or references or if we get near your town let us know, we have a collection of support at leebaker.4.mormon.org

    Blessings for your faith in Christ, Lee and Kathy

  14. Jay November 25, 2014 at 10:34 am #

    Lee,

    Curious to know how you believe in the trinity now
    Esp with references in the bible that the father,son and Holy Spirit are 3 seperate beings.

    Thanks

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